16 April 2010 @ 07:55 pm
Supernatural 5x18 "Point of No Return" aka 100th episode  


"Word to the wise. Don't piss off the nerd angels."



Quick thoughts:

01. "It's not too hard to figure out the stops on the farewell tour, how's Lisa doing anyways?" The Lisa thing made me pause when Sam mentioned her, as if it was so obvious to Sam that he would go to her - again I hate that they at least didn't have a build up to that.

02. Oh teh ~homoerotic subtext~.It was a shipper's dream come true lol - Dean to Cas: "Cas, not for nothing but the the last person who looked at me like that - I got laid." and Zach about Sam and Dean: "Psychotically, irrationally, erotically co-dependent." Not to mention the winks and the heated angry stares, hate!sex plz and etc. etc. there was something for everyone in this episode xD

03. Castiel was a total BAMF omg. Also, he acted a bit like a scorned ex or something, it was kind of hilarious - but also sad that he his faith in Dean is dwindling. After that ending, I hope he's okay.

04. I didn't hate Dean, nor did I cheer on when Castiel beat the living daylights out of him. That whole scene made me sad to be honest; Dean losing faith in himself, Sam and their chances of finding a way out and Cas just completely losing it, realizing that the faith he put in Dean and the sacrifices he made may have been for nothing. I don't know, I've always sympathized with Dean, even when he does and says some pretty stupid and hurtful things, mainly because I feel I can understand why he's acting that way. Not to say that I didn't feel sorry for Sam, hearing that Dean lost faith in him did hurt, it was plain to see. The boys seem to have reached some sort of understanding but being spoiled and knowing that there'll be a beatdown between the guys soon, whether as themselves or as vessels, I'm not getting ahead of myself yet - the conflict hasn't been resolved completely.

05. This is probably an unpopular opinion, at least with the fans I know and maybe some of you on my f-list, heck I'm not even completely comfortable with it, but when it comes to Bobby...I think I'm at a point where I don't really care if he dies. I'd care more about what it would do to the boys and I'd be sad because they are hurting but other than that... I think this has been a long time coming for me, the "boo hoo. I'm so sorry your feelings are hurt," scene may have been the catalyst, I'm not sure. I didn't find it funny nor deserved, snark is fine and good but not when someone genuinely belittles other people's feelings. Him trying to guilt Dean last night, I can't really explain it, it just turned me off. I don't know, I guess I just find him insensitive, I'm probably not making much sense - I'll just leave it at that.

06. I get that people on the show and fans want Dean to get over his issues or something and focus on the current situation but these things don't work that way, you can't just magically wave off depression, guilt, PTSD, suicidal thoughts and God knows whatever else he's dealing with. I sound like a complete Dean!girl, I know - and I am in the sense that he is one of my favorite characters, both on the show and in general. I'm patient about this, after a season or more where he buried all that down I like finally watching it all bubble up to the surface.

07. I loved that pervy and snarky bastard Zachariah, they shouldn't have killed him off yet. By the way didn't he say in "The Song Remains the Same" that he had six wings? They only showed 2 when he died...

08. Most of y'all may know I'm not a fan of Adam, mostly due hating to the whole idea of a third Winchester sibling, I've never been a fan of the surprise!sibling trope or whatever it is called, Buffy solidified that one. In this episode...yeah I'm indifferent to him, so he had to make his own dinner or w/e but at least his mom tried, that's better than what the boys got. idek, he'll be back anyways.

09. I'm wondering about the letter right now, and if we'll ever see what Dean wrote in it, hmm... nvm someone found a clear cap and was able to partially transcribe it.

I loved the episode, but my stream cut me off last night and I just gave up 15 minutes in. I watched it this morning but there's just something about watching it live and with others that intensifies the experience. I think that's why I was a bit underwhelmed when I watched it by myself. I hope this is a one off thing because it was the 100th episode but if it isn't then...yeah I'm gonna be disappointed.


I have also resolved to stay as spoiler-free as possible from now on, I love spoilers, I really do, but we're getting close to the finish line (only 4 episodes left, yikes!) and I want to be surprised.

....okay that was way more than I expected from this post, I don't really start thinking about this stuff until I start writing. I wish it worked the same way with academic papers lol.
 
 
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[identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com on April 16th, 2010 06:39 pm (UTC)
'The Lisa thing made me pause when Sam mentioned her, as if it was so obvious to Sam that he would go to her - again I hate that they at least didn't have a build up to that.'
Me too. What happened, did Dean talk about her all the time and they just forgot to film those scenes.

'I think I'm at a point where I don't really care if he dies.'
I kind of feel the same way, but it's because I've been expecting it for a while now.

'In this episode...yeah I'm indifferent to him, so he had to make his own dinner or w/e but at least his mom tried, that's better than what the boys got.'
When Adam has his little monologue all I could think was 'at least he had a mother, not only did Sam and Dean not have a mom, they barely had a dad'.
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ext_85807[identity profile] a-way-of-sin.livejournal.com on April 16th, 2010 07:03 pm (UTC)
When Adam has his little monologue all I could think was 'at least he had a mother, not only did Sam and Dean not have a mom, they barely had a dad'.

And they didn't, they had a drill sergeant. Add to that, that they basically set their lives at stake from when they were children. John reasoned that he was protecting them and tried to train them to be able to protect themselves - in hindsight this was both a good and bad thing: Good in the sense that had they not been aware about what went on, they could've ended up like Adam, demon fodder or angel fodder etc. Bad in the sense that they were risking their lives every time they went on a hunt, that's no way raise and protect your kid (like Young!John said, which also makes me sad to watch his scene with Sam, considering how bad it got after Mary died)

Which is also something I've wondered about, given that John found out about Adam when he was twelve(born September 29, 1990, two days after my birthday oy..) so around 2002, John would've known about him for 4? years by the time he died. Yet, he doesn't make any precautionary measures regarding Adam in that period, idk if that's a character flaw or just the writers being inconsistent.
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[identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com on April 16th, 2010 07:35 pm (UTC)
'Yet, he doesn't make any precautionary measures regarding Adam in that period, idk if that's a character flaw or just the writers being inconsistent.'
You would think he would have at least told Dean he had a half brother so Dean could check up on Adam every once in a while in case something happened to John.
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ext_85807[identity profile] a-way-of-sin.livejournal.com on April 16th, 2010 07:44 pm (UTC)
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Exactly, especially since Dean is All About Family and wouldn't have wanted a brother of his to get* hurt.
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[identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com on April 16th, 2010 08:30 pm (UTC)
I'm just going to chalk it up to sloppy writing. If the writers wanted Adam to be a secret could have said that Dean knew about but Sam didn't because John told Dean about Adam after Sam left and he made Dean promise not to say anything.
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silverusagi[personal profile] silverusagi on April 16th, 2010 06:44 pm (UTC)
First, I love how everyone is just like COMPELLED to use GIFs while making episode posts. This is the quickest GIF turnaround that I've seen, where EVERYONE is using them.

as if it was so obvious to Sam that he would go to her - again I hate that they at least didn't have a build up to that

Yeah. I don't think it was that obvious. I can see that it might not be completely out of the blue, but for Sam to just know seemed weird to me.

"Cas, not for nothing but the the last person who looked at me like that - I got laid."

And then he winks! Like it can't just be a snarky comment in and of itself, he has to follow up on it.

I got a laugh out of Zachariah's line, though. That was kind of awesome, and I don't even like Wincest.

I think I'm at a point where I don't really care if he dies.

I don't want Bobby to die, but if someone is going to die, I'd rather it be Bobby. And it's true that he hasn't been having the best time of it this season. I think he might be ready to die, sad as that is.

They only showed 2 when he died...

Maybe only two can manifest on this plane?

I've never been a fan of the surprise!sibling trope

You know, at this point, I'm wondering if he was introduced specifically to be a vessel. Even though it seemed random in 4x19. But that's right before the episode where we get into the vessel thing in the next ep 4x20, and we find out Dean is a vessel in 5x01. Not that I like the surprise!sibling, either, but it seems less random now than it did.

Oh, and of course CASTIEL WAS BAMF. Not just one scene, but the entire ep.
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ext_85807[identity profile] a-way-of-sin.livejournal.com on April 16th, 2010 07:13 pm (UTC)
Not that I like the surprise!sibling, either, but it seems less random now than it did.

I just think of Dawn and...yeah dnw.

It does seem less random, and I'm glad they followed up on it for the sake of cohesion to make it more related to the plot, yet I'm also irrationally annoyed because I just wanted to put that episode out of my mind and deny! deny! deny! lol.
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[identity profile] ibroketuesday.livejournal.com on April 18th, 2010 05:00 am (UTC)
#3: Castiel really was. Fucking hilarious. He loves Dean so hard.

#5: Yeah, I wouldn't mind if Bobby went either. I don't hate him and want him gone, but I'm not enamored of him either, so I wouldn't shed tears.
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[identity profile] candygram-5000.livejournal.com on April 19th, 2010 11:15 am (UTC)
I love bamf!Castiel, makes me want to shoot in joy: at least, a reaction to all the bullshit you've already swallowed!!. And it may not be a popular opinion in the fandom, but I think Dean had it coming. I find him more and more annoying (not on the head please!) :)
I don't like the surprise!sibling either. It made me go meh with Dawn, same than you. And being a jerk when young is a Winchester genetic thing or what? lol! And I wouldn't mind for Bobby too, I'm like you, if I don't like the idea it's because it would hurt the boys profoundly.
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